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		<title>Cheap bike fit v expensive bike fit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a post I originally wrote in November 2008 about my bike fit.  Since I wrote it, I&#8217;ve been getting more and more comfortable on my bike.   When I first got my tri bike I had to set it up myself.  I had a play with it but just couldn’t get comfortable.  After a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">This is a post I originally wrote in November 2008 about my bike fit.  Since I wrote it, I&#8217;ve been getting more and more comfortable on my bike.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2;"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto; mso-outline-level: 2;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">When I first got my tri bike I had to set it up myself.  I had a play with it but just couldn’t get comfortable.  After a while I decided to get an expensive bike fit.  I spent an hour and a half with them and they videod me, lasered me, looked at me, adjusted things and I came away having spent a fortune on the fitting and a new adjustable stem.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">But my arms still weren’t comfortable so I bought some differently shaped tri bar extensions, cut them to size and played with them and they were a bit more comfortable, but not that comfortable.  So I didn’t ride my tri bike too much.  I did a half on it and did better than expected but I wasn’t comfortable enough to do a full ironman on it.  So IMUK was done on my road bike.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">I want to do Lanza on my tri bike.  It’ll be quicker into the wind but I need to be comfortable on it.  So I’ve been riding the bike more and getting more used to it.  My arms hurt less, my neck aches a bit, things are improving.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">I decided to get a photo of me on my bike.  When I compared it to the pictures on the web, I found my position looked really bad.  So I went back to the set up info the expensive bike fit place gave me and compared the measurements to my bike.  I found the saddle had slipped 6cm.  And I hadn’t noticed it that much!  I also found that the seat angle was quite shallow on the measurements they gave me (74 degrees) compared with the 79 degrees that some people think is good.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">I found an article on Slowtwitch which basically said that:</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">1. From the top of saddle to the end of aerobars (just before the shifters) should be the same distance as the top of the saddle is to the BB.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">2. 79 degrees is good for most people</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">3. The drop between saddle and arm rests should be calculated by a simple formula (that gave 12cm of drop for me).</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">So armed with this info, a bit of trig, a spirit level, a long bit of wood and a tape measure I made some changes to my bike.  Saddle went forward, bars went down and forwards.  The result: the bike is comfortable-ish (it really does depend on what bike shorts I wear), there is a bit more pressure on my arms and my neck aches a lot more.  But there is no sign of any drop off in power and (I think) the position is more aero.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">The neck ache should hopefully go as I get used to it.  I will be riding my tri bike a lot more than last year (four times a week at the moment).  Wearing the “right” bike shorts all the time will help.  I do need to work a little on my arm position still.</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: normal; margin: 0cm 0cm 10pt; background: white; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: &quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; color: black; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-language: EN-GB;"><span style="font-size: small;">What I do find incredible though is that I can get a “better” bike position very quickly by following a very simple formula.  Obviously I don’t know what it is going to be like in a months time.  I might hate it.  But at the moment, it has potential.  So I am chuffed.</span></span></p>
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